Comments on: The Last Supper http://christopherbutler.wordpress.com/2006/05/18/the-last-supper/ Articles in Apologetics Tue, 06 Oct 2009 00:32:27 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Ameet http://christopherbutler.wordpress.com/2006/05/18/the-last-supper/#comment-12741 Ameet Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:50:47 +0000 https://christopherbutler.wordpress.com/2006/05/18/the-last-supper/#comment-12741 Hi! I have lot of queries with this picture. I am an Indian, not a christian but things do ring in my head for the globe. 1) Why is jesus and most of the men dressed in blue and red? Why is the (Mary or John) wearing the red outside and blue inside exactly opposite of Jesus? 2) The ones who are not wearing blue and red, what color is it and who are they? 3) The ceiling of this painting is against the laws of geometry and construction. The vertical walls do not join the ceiling at the shown edges, why? 4) The surrondings show 11 doors, why? 5) Does the table have any legs? cant see in the picture I have. 6) What is the chair like picture just before the table(it looks like the top backside of any chair), could it be of the 12th deciple, who seems to have got up from the seat and shot the picture? 7) Just between the V of (Mary or John) and Jesus there is a pillar intersecting at the background which seems to have a white board like thing what is it? The other pillar intersects on his left side which forms a V with the man not in blue and red, why? 8) If you leave the doors and count the pillars at the back ground in x and y direction, there are exactly 12 pillars why? 9) I have queries even on the food on the table but, need to see the picture more clearly? Will ask when I get the reply Hi!

I have lot of queries with this picture. I am an Indian, not a christian but things do ring in my head for the globe.

1) Why is jesus and most of the men dressed in blue and red? Why is the (Mary or John) wearing the red outside and blue inside exactly opposite of Jesus?

2) The ones who are not wearing blue and red, what color is it and who are they?

3) The ceiling of this painting is against the laws of geometry and construction. The vertical walls do not join the ceiling at the shown edges, why?

4) The surrondings show 11 doors, why?

5) Does the table have any legs? cant see in the picture I have.

6) What is the chair like picture just before the table(it looks like the top backside of any chair), could it be of the 12th deciple, who seems to have got up from the seat and shot the picture?

7) Just between the V of (Mary or John) and Jesus there is a pillar intersecting at the background which seems to have a white board like thing what is it? The other pillar intersects on his left side which forms a V with the man not in blue and red, why?

8) If you leave the doors and count the pillars at the back ground in x and y direction, there are exactly 12 pillars why?

9) I have queries even on the food on the table but, need to see the picture more clearly? Will ask when I get the reply

]]> By: Buddy http://christopherbutler.wordpress.com/2006/05/18/the-last-supper/#comment-12736 Buddy Sun, 13 Jul 2008 04:49:34 +0000 https://christopherbutler.wordpress.com/2006/05/18/the-last-supper/#comment-12736 guys, CHILL! geez, it's just a book Dan Brown wrote all that stuff to make the book just more interesting not to manipulate people cause we all know history isn't the funnest subject in the world, he was prolly thinking to throw in some twists to make the book a best seller not to throw down the whole Church system or whatever he's got better things to do, like make millions of his book than spend years researching the Bible, DaVinci, etc guys, CHILL! geez, it’s just a book
Dan Brown wrote all that stuff to make the book just more interesting
not to manipulate people
cause we all know history isn’t the funnest subject in the world,
he was prolly thinking to throw in some twists to make the book a best seller
not to throw down the whole Church system or whatever
he’s got better things to do, like make millions of his book
than spend years researching the Bible, DaVinci, etc

]]> By: Michaela http://christopherbutler.wordpress.com/2006/05/18/the-last-supper/#comment-12731 Michaela Tue, 27 May 2008 13:35:50 +0000 https://christopherbutler.wordpress.com/2006/05/18/the-last-supper/#comment-12731 Ok, hopefull I wont offend anyone here, but I'm bound to...lol. But it's not intentional. You either believe in the complete authority of the Word (the bible), and are therefore indwelt by the Spirit of God, and called 'the sons/daughters of God' or you don't, and therefore don't have the indwelling of the Spirit and are referred to biblically as 'sons/daughters of disobedience'. Personally, I believe the bible is infallible, divinely inspired by God Himself, and without error. Are we to believe Dan Brown? Leonardo Da Vinci? Who are they???? Or anyone else for that matter, so long after the event? I mean, even if I didn't believe the bible was divinely inspired, my common sense certainly tells me the accuracy of any particular account is going to be greater from people who were actually there versus people who weren't! Cheers. Ok, hopefull I wont offend anyone here, but I’m bound to…lol. But it’s not intentional. You either believe in the complete authority of the Word (the bible), and are therefore indwelt by the Spirit of God, and called ‘the sons/daughters of God’ or you don’t, and therefore don’t have the indwelling of the Spirit and are referred to biblically as ’sons/daughters of disobedience’. Personally, I believe the bible is infallible, divinely inspired by God Himself, and without error. Are we to believe Dan Brown? Leonardo Da Vinci? Who are they???? Or anyone else for that matter, so long after the event? I mean, even if I didn’t believe the bible was divinely inspired, my common sense certainly tells me the accuracy of any particular account is going to be greater from people who were actually there versus people who weren’t!

Cheers.

]]> By: SR http://christopherbutler.wordpress.com/2006/05/18/the-last-supper/#comment-12714 SR Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:48:18 +0000 https://christopherbutler.wordpress.com/2006/05/18/the-last-supper/#comment-12714 I have to object to the theory stated as fact that the Priory is or has been proven as fake, in fact it has been proven as fact and is well documented by the order itself, vanishing into the mist in 1984 when its last perhaps self appointed Grand Master Pierre Plantard died - however this link may enlighten people if the link comes out http://www.fiu.edu/~mizrachs/poseur3.html I have to object to the theory stated as fact that the Priory is or has been proven as fake, in fact it has been proven as fact and is well documented by the order itself, vanishing into the mist in 1984 when its last perhaps self appointed Grand Master Pierre Plantard died – however this link may enlighten people if the link comes out http://www.fiu.edu/~mizrachs/poseur3.html

]]> By: Donald Inks http://christopherbutler.wordpress.com/2006/05/18/the-last-supper/#comment-10362 Donald Inks Sun, 29 Jul 2007 18:28:37 +0000 https://christopherbutler.wordpress.com/2006/05/18/the-last-supper/#comment-10362 Here is a clue...it was a painting within a painting. In those times of church persecution artists were foreced to incorperate what they wanted to convey...in secret. They HID things within their works. Da Vinci was not fond of the church nor the church of him. Here is a clue…it was a painting within a painting. In those times of church persecution artists were foreced to incorperate what they wanted to convey…in secret. They HID things within their works. Da Vinci was not fond of the church nor the church of him.

]]> By: Donald Inks http://christopherbutler.wordpress.com/2006/05/18/the-last-supper/#comment-10360 Donald Inks Sun, 29 Jul 2007 18:22:28 +0000 https://christopherbutler.wordpress.com/2006/05/18/the-last-supper/#comment-10360 Da Vinci DID paint the chalice. It rests right on top of St. Bartholomews head. And once you see the chalice staring right out in front of your eyes...you'll never look at the painting again the same way. ...AND right above the Chalice, and behind the Chalice...a familiar face is staring right back at the viewer. The face is VERY well known..now figure what Da Vinci was saying. Remember...Da Vinci was not just a skilled artist, but skilled in mathematics...and, well seek and you will find. Da Vinci DID paint the chalice. It rests right on top of St. Bartholomews head. And once you see the chalice staring right out in front of your eyes…you’ll never look at the painting again the same way. …AND right above the Chalice, and behind the Chalice…a familiar face is staring right back at the viewer. The face is VERY well known..now figure what Da Vinci was saying. Remember…Da Vinci was not just a skilled artist, but skilled in mathematics…and, well seek and you will find.

]]> By: eric http://christopherbutler.wordpress.com/2006/05/18/the-last-supper/#comment-10309 eric Sat, 28 Jul 2007 01:15:04 +0000 https://christopherbutler.wordpress.com/2006/05/18/the-last-supper/#comment-10309 If you liked the book 'The DaVinci Code', you will absolutely love another great book of fiction, 'The Bible'. If you liked the book ‘The DaVinci Code’, you will absolutely love another great book of fiction, ‘The Bible’.

]]> By: jack from New York http://christopherbutler.wordpress.com/2006/05/18/the-last-supper/#comment-10298 jack from New York Fri, 27 Jul 2007 19:06:12 +0000 https://christopherbutler.wordpress.com/2006/05/18/the-last-supper/#comment-10298 Not only did jesus have sex with Mary, (although that wasn't his name anyway, becuase the letter J didn't exsist then), not only did jesus sleep with mary but he had homosexual relations with each of his male followers as well!!! Not only did jesus have sex with Mary, (although that wasn’t his name anyway, becuase the letter J didn’t exsist then), not only did jesus sleep with mary but he had homosexual relations with each of his male followers as well!!!

]]> By: Ken http://christopherbutler.wordpress.com/2006/05/18/the-last-supper/#comment-9594 Ken Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:11:02 +0000 https://christopherbutler.wordpress.com/2006/05/18/the-last-supper/#comment-9594 I think the focus on Da Vinci and his painting of The Last Supper is irrelevent to those seeking to justify their faith in Christ, or to those seeking to denounce Christianity. The REAL question we should be asking is, when and how was the divinity of Christ created? To those of us living in the 21st century, we've been taught to believe that the divinity of Jesus Christ was made known 3 days after His crucifixion, when He rose from His tomb and reunited with His disciples for a brief time, before ascending into heaven. But according to Dan Brown, the church established the divinity of Christ LONG after His death. Did the world believe Jesus was divine prior to this council? What did people think of Jesus before then? Was He considered a great man, like other modern day great men, men like Gandhi and Martin Luther King? Or was He thought to have risen from the grave with new life and worshipped as a deity from the time shortly after His death until this very day? If the Catholic Church TRULY created the divinity of Christ, centuries after He died, as Brown suggests, then I believe that knowledge would do far more damage to the faith than whether the figure sitting to the right of Jesus was Mary Magdalene or John in Da Vinci's depiction. The thought of a group of old men sitting in council, in essence "creating" the image of Christ as a God figure, scares me. I think I'd focus my attention on finding out more about this council than I would studying Da Vinci's works of art, but that's me. I think the focus on Da Vinci and his painting of The Last Supper is irrelevent to those seeking to justify their faith in Christ, or to those seeking to denounce Christianity. The REAL question we should be asking is, when and how was the divinity of Christ created? To those of us living in the 21st century, we’ve been taught to believe that the divinity of Jesus Christ was made known 3 days after His crucifixion, when He rose from His tomb and reunited with His disciples for a brief time, before ascending into heaven. But according to Dan Brown, the church established the divinity of Christ LONG after His death. Did the world believe Jesus was divine prior to this council? What did people think of Jesus before then? Was He considered a great man, like other modern day great men, men like Gandhi and Martin Luther King? Or was He thought to have risen from the grave with new life and worshipped as a deity from the time shortly after His death until this very day? If the Catholic Church TRULY created the divinity of Christ, centuries after He died, as Brown suggests, then I believe that knowledge would do far more damage to the faith than whether the figure sitting to the right of Jesus was Mary Magdalene or John in Da Vinci’s depiction. The thought of a group of old men sitting in council, in essence “creating” the image of Christ as a God figure, scares me. I think I’d focus my attention on finding out more about this council than I would studying Da Vinci’s works of art, but that’s me.

]]> By: Jasmine http://christopherbutler.wordpress.com/2006/05/18/the-last-supper/#comment-8908 Jasmine Sat, 16 Jun 2007 22:43:38 +0000 https://christopherbutler.wordpress.com/2006/05/18/the-last-supper/#comment-8908 i read the Davinci code some time ago and I must say that regardless the extint of your faith any well or poorly sourced documentation of something believed to impact culture and lifestyles of a group of people is going to raise some important questions. i dont know how much of the novel i believeand it certainly doesnt make mequestion my religon because one i'm not catholic and two i feel that faith and spirituality are not made by the bible itself or by priests and popes rather faith is created by the person it inhibits. i think for along time the chuch has looked down and cast out women and i also agree that it seems to me they have been finding a way to silence us and prove that we are not a necessity, so it wouldnt suprise me if we find the thingsabout mary magdaline true. iwould like to say to CB: "you seem very earnest and unswerving in your convictions but i do not believe that even your answers remove peoples doubtit seems tht you are quite vague at times and i dont understand how one can be so sure about something when you yourself said Davinci couldnt possibly be knowledgable onn something 1400 yrs ago. i would also like to know if there is any historical text that explains why the church down plays women?" in short idont know ifJesus is he son of God or married to Mary Magdaline but i know it would certainly explain that emaculate conception theory they have now!!! i read the Davinci code some time ago and I must say that regardless the extint of your faith any well or poorly sourced documentation of something believed to impact culture and lifestyles of a group of people is going to raise some important questions. i dont know how much of the novel i believeand it certainly doesnt make mequestion my religon because one i’m not catholic and two i feel that faith and spirituality are not made by the bible itself or by priests and popes rather faith is created by the person it inhibits. i think for along time the chuch has looked down and cast out women and i also agree that it seems to me they have been finding a way to silence us and prove that we are not a necessity, so it wouldnt suprise me if we find the thingsabout mary magdaline true. iwould like to say to CB: “you seem very earnest and unswerving in your convictions but i do not believe that even your answers remove peoples doubtit seems tht you are quite vague at times and i dont understand how one can be so sure about something when you yourself said Davinci couldnt possibly be knowledgable onn something 1400 yrs ago. i would also like to know if there is any historical text that explains why the church down plays women?” in short idont know ifJesus is he son of God or married to Mary Magdaline but i know it would certainly explain that emaculate conception theory they have now!!!

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